Dermot Mulroney – Fashion book

Dermot Mulroney is the kind of Hollywood presence that doesn’t need to announce himself. With a career spanning over three decades, he has evolved from rom-com royalty to one of the most versatile actors working today—effortlessly navigating indie dramas, studio thrillers, and prestige television. Whether it’s Scream VI, Secret Invasion, Anyone But You, or his commanding performance as Battalion Chief Dominick “Dom” Pascal in Chicago Fire, Mulroney brings a distinct gravity and charm to every role. But beyond the screen, he’s also a classically trained cellist, a fashion minimalist with an eye for timeless elegance, and a grounded artist navigating the ever-changing entertainment landscape with humility and wisdom. In this exclusive interview with Dimitri Vorontsov, Dermot Mulroney opens up about his recent projects, evolving creative process, and the surprising ways he finds balance in a business that never slows down.

L’OFFICIEL FASHION BOOK AUSTRALIA x DERMOT MULRONEY

Talent: Dermot Mulroney @dermotmulroney

Photographer/Creative Director: Mike Ruiz @mikeruizone

Editor-in-Chief: Dimitri Vorontsov @dimitrivorontsov

Magazine: L’Officiel Fashion Book Australia – @lofficielfashionbook

Stylist: Christopher Campbell @mrchriscampbell

Stylist’s Assistant: Casey McClellan

Groomer: Nathaniel Dezan @nathanieldezan

Graphic Designer: Daniel Alarcon @by_danalarcon

Assistants: River Chad @rvrchd & Ozzie Gutierrez @ozzie__g__

Dimitri: Youve had an exciting lineup of recent projects. Can you walk us through what youve been working on lately?

Dermot Mulroney: Yeah. I finished Chicago Fire, our NBC show. So it’s an incredible season there as a firefighter, the new chief in town, etc.. That was amazing. But even at the end of Chicago Fire, I started doing the post-production sound looping, ADR on a couple of movies that I had completed previously. Some of them I’ll appear in a key role. So these would be, that are saving the film industry. You might not even end up hearing about some of them, but they’re made for an audience that’s global. It might be in a niche or in a distant streamer universe somewhere. But those are the movies that have kept our industry alive. Around the country. A lot of them are shooting here and there, I’ll title a few of them to look for in the coming months. One of them I have there’s a release date late September for a western called Long Shadows. William Shockley directed it. He the actor. And it’s getting great notices and even some awards attention at film festivals, I’m sure it’ll have a nice small release with probably not nearly enough promotion and marketing. But we put our hearts into that one and it came out great classic Western film. So look for that one. Okay, I made two, No, I won’t say they’re funny, but two horror movies, which is funny that they’re in the same genre and they have similar titles, they both at least have the name dead in it. So I guess that’s probably somebody told someone somewhere that if you put dead in the title, you’ll do better business.

Consequently, I have two horror films that I’ve completed. One’s called Dead of Night, and that’s more maybe of a potboiler. Who’s who’s the bad killer in town? And father daughter story. The daughter’s investigating the local murders for the paper, etc., so that one goes south fast, and then dead and breakfast of wonderfully weird movie. Which is exactly what you think it sounds like. That’s the bed and breakfast you check into, but you don’t check out. So it’s one of those horror movies that, you know is just inevitable havoc and carnage. So stay tuned for that one. And a real favorite of mine that seems to be coming on. Got a notice today. You could look it up. That it got a nice distribution deal for a movie called Killing Mary Sue. The star of which is Sierra McCormick, is the young star who plays my stepdaughter, who’s messing up my senatorial campaign. And so Jake Busey, my campaign manager, and I cook up a plan to well, kill her so it doesn’t go well at all. The all the assassin teams are bumbling idiots, and turns out. Oh, yeah, I don’t want to give too much away, but she’s met her match with with Mary Sue, so that one’s really funny. Very strange and unique movie. So those are hard to come by, too. We actors all love that. Films that have an extra dose of imagination or just some unique thing. Sometimes the market doesn’t like something that’s new or edgy or off the beaten track. But I have a great gratitude for those filmmakers in that level, that small budgeted movies. Oh, there’s another one, Night Patrol with Justin Long that we finished. So so I’m happy to report. Yes, I’ve got some goods on the shelf that’ll be coming out before too long. And that’s the follow up. A couple of actually conventional, even studio aligned films working back from anyone but you. Thank you. Sydney, Australia and Sydney Sweeney, for that matter. And scream six before that. And and so I’ve had, I’ve had a good run here.

Dimitri: Ive admired your work for years—its been incredible watching your journey on screen.

Dermot Mulroney: I know I’ve reached that age where the grown men who are you graying themselves claim to have been kids when they first saw me, I don’t know. But it is an amazing feeling to have grown up with people or have people, frankly, watched me do the same. To have such a long running luck? I’m in a rare seat where I can really appreciate all the variety of different things I’ve done, the people that I’ve come by that and people have lifted me up. And obviously I try to do the same working with young actors who recently. So many of the films I even mentioned, amazing young actors coming up, including that cast of Anyone but You. So it’s been a wonderful stretch for me here as I reached the age where I’m working with younger people who really they don’t know it, but I’m actually vampiring all of their youth energy. I hope they’re okay with that. That’s been my plan for about ten years. I’m like, I’m going to take some of that youthful exuberance. And, you it’s been a good plan.

Dimitri: You’ve seamlessly moved between heroic roles and more morally ambiguous characters. Whats your approach to embracing that versatility?

Dermot Mulroney: Yeah, very much these days. Again, at this in this age grouping, I seem to be able to do both. All of us could do both. I get that card sometimes. I’m thrilled when it switches back and forth. Even that killing Mary Sue is a little bit of both combined. Like crazy chaotic humor and you and some pretty, pretty brutal violence and murderous intent. So some of those films are a great mix for me a lot of times, because I can still fool people, or the filmmakers would want to use me to misdirect, let’s say and then turn out to be the bad guy or vice versa. That role on Chicago Fire worked on the opposite. I was never evil, but I was definitely my character was in question by the viewing audience until he proved himself to him. So that’s that audience. Been there longer than I have. So the writers did a great job of turning that to them. And had a great season accordingly.

Dimitri: With the rise of streaming, filmmakers now have the opportunity to tell stories in longer, more flexible formats—something that wouldnt have been possible 20 years ago under the old theatrical model. Series today can run 10, 15, even 20 episodes, allowing for a much deeper narrative experience. How do you view this shift from traditional 4-6 week theatrical runs to these expansive streaming-driven formats?

Dermot Mulroney: Well, you’re describing what happened is it broke into a third bubble with even, you could start it with watching cable instead of renting VHS tapes, but it really turned over when stream streaming came in, that you could either go to the theater or watch it at home, but now you can sit and watch it at home. You can watch anything at home, and you can watch anything at home for free with no compensation in success or anything like that for the creators, which, you obviously we were in dispute with the producers on our contract last year about issues surrounding that. But it’s a it’s really the Wild West. So those shows that are really high end, a lot of budget on them for high end streamers. There that’s a great way to tell a story, but it’s new where you’ll have eight episodes only and people can really it’s a really palatable amount of content for one long story, rather than tumbling on season after season. So the problem with that, though, is there’s fewer writers. Those become these empires of a producer who makes a bunch of shows and things like that. And it and it silos the industry. So there’s no growth pattern behind that. That one’s done one and done and gone. So actors can’t bank on a new contract next season and all that. Nor can, you all the crews. It’s, it’s a much more and it’s it’s become more fractured and more nomadic as production not only leaves the country, which has been much reported, but shifts around from state to state for us. So we’ll suddenly be working in parts of the country that never really had a film industry, because the state businessmen had the sense to change their tax status up to where they’re helping to foster film production in their areas. So it’s been wild. It’s you you get used to one thing. you or maybe you get to a certain age and you’re surprised at how much things changes and how long it’s been changing. And, I don’t know, it’s very fascinating right now. And obviously a lot of people, a lot of actors, friends of mine in my generation are really struggling because the opportunities, as much as it seems like there’s way more stuff to watch, opportunities are limited or opportunities with you deluxe Opportunities. A lot of people are. It’s hard to live off of a little. One job here, one job there. That’s always been the game for actor. And again, it you it it can be very difficult. And I think we’re in a very difficult stage.

Dimitri: Have you taken on producing roles in some of your projects, particularly in the independent film space?

Dermot Mulroney: Sometimes I might be lifted on as a producer. Yeah. Just to help get the film made and etc.. But I don’t  as much as I love talking about film and breaking down the industry and all that, I don’t I’ve never really functioned in the capacity of arranging all the nuts and bolts that make a movie. Or basically the other type of producer is the one that originates the material and starts the foundation of putting together all the pieces money and and talent. So I function in between the cracks that way. Help friends step in for things. And But but no, I don’t act as a producer. Even if sometimes you have to think like, like one to get your acting job going.

Dimitri: Thats a very strategic way of looking at it.

Dermot Mulroney: You and to be strategic about it, rather than sitting and waiting, waiting, waiting. Because then you’ll be sitting and waiting.

Dimitri: Recently, theres been talk of implementing tax penalties on productions filmed outside the U.S. In your view, could this impact the global filmmaking ecosystem in a meaningful way?

Dermot Mulroney: It’s impossible to tell wrong or right. It’s very clear. Whoever coming up with that slash and burn solution doesn’t understand the intricacies of the industry. From the ground’s eye view, the reason why I would say that it’s a little bit there’s other industries like us, but every time you make a film you’re engaging about 100 different industries. So we’re really like each film is a network of trades and of businesses, rental companies for the equipment, for the transport, for everything, building carpenters before you even get to finishing the script and putting people in costumes, etc. So you can’t paint that with a broad brush. It has to be a little more it would let me put it this way. It’d be more useful if it was smarter.

Dimitri: Thats an important point—and I completely see where youre coming from.

Dermot Mulroney: You can quote me on that. Or if it was laid out better or strategically right now, that was a lump statement that made everybody go. What do you mean? So that’s the phase we’re at now. Hopefully there’s clarity soon. And and beyond that nobody knows. So we’ve been risk after risk. We’ve been slowed down by pandemic by a labor dispute where we were being exploited, and now this with self-inflicted economic implosion. I said everything that’s like exclamation points and question marks. It doesn’t seem like it’s a good time to do earth shattering restructuring?

Dimitri: Absolutely—and as you mentioned earlier, regions like Australia and British Columbia in Canada have long been major global production hubs. Theyve contributed significantly to the film and television industries for decades. Do you think its even feasible—or wise—for policies to try and sideline such key players in the global production landscape?

Dermot Mulroney: I know, I don’t see how that would work. Yeah. you it would have to be really intricately designed for that to be beneficial to anybody, including whatever broad stroke America First thinking goes behind that.

Dimitri: I understand the logic behind it, but Im still trying to see how it could realistically be implemented. Tax incentives play a major role in production decisions, and you cant simply replicate certain locations. If countries in Europe, Africa, or the Middle East are offering compelling incentives and suitable environments for filming, why penalize productions for choosing those options? It just doesnt quite add up—Im still trying to wrap my head around the reasoning.

Dermot Mulroney: Yeah. It’s not it’s not clear enough yet or thought out enough.

Dimitri: I completely agree with that sentiment.

Dermot Mulroney: But it’s at this moment it’s impossible to extricate talking about creating artwork. Yeah. And and political and atmosphere, they’re intricately interwoven right now. So it’s impossible to avoid that topic.

Dimitri: In the midst of industry-wide challenges—pandemics, labor strikes, economic uncertainty—how do you stay focused on creativity and forward momentum?

Dermot Mulroney: We’ll bring up in theory, it’ll help. Yeah. We know we’ll bring up a lot of resilient kids starting right now. They’re basically going to be left to their own defenses. So too bad for them. But hopefully it makes for strong adults in 25 years.

Dimitri: If you had the chance to give your younger self a single piece of advice—personal or professional—what would it be?

Dermot Mulroney: Yeah. What’s very much the first thing that occurred to me was wear more comfortable shoes. Because that you’re going to regret that the the choices you made in that department.

I would add more seriously to that – that without being too self-critical. I look back and feel like I could have told myself to take certain things more seriously. Just or maybe with a little more anyhow, as you age, you gain context and things feel. Yeah. I can’t really define it better than that. Just Yeah. I think I’m just so overwhelmed with gratitude now at this phase that I can’t believe I didn’t feel that way the whole time, which, of course I did, but now I really wear it on my sleeve. Yeah.

Michele Morrone – Fashion book

Acclaimed for his commanding screen presence, raw talent, and distinct aesthetic, Michele Morrone continues to shape an impressive career across film, music, and fashion. From his breakout international success to a growing list of collaborations with world-class directors, Morrone is increasingly recognized not only as an actor and musician, but as a multidimensional creative with a clear artistic vision.

In this exclusive interview with Dimitri Vorontsov, Morrone speaks candidly about his recent projects—including A Simple Favor 2, The Housemaid, and the sci-fi thriller Subservience—as well as his deep passion for Italian automotive design, his independent approach to music, and his philosophy on risk, purpose, and personal evolution. Whether discussing the nuances of character-building or the importance of staying creatively unconfined, Morrone reveals a thoughtful, grounded perspective shaped by both discipline and instinct.

Stylish, self-aware, and refreshingly direct, Michele Morrone offers more than star power—he offers substance.

L’OFFICIEL FASHION BOOK AUSTRALIA x MICHELE MORRONE

Talent: Michele Morrone @michelemorrone

Photographer/Creative Director: Mike Ruiz @mikeruizone

Editor-in-Chief: Dimitri Vorontsov @dimitrivorontsov

Magazine: L’Officiel Fashion Book Australia – @lofficielfashionbook

Videographer: Alexandr Dombrovschi @alexandr_dombrovschi

Fashion Editor: Paola Ventimiglia @paolaxxmiglia Fashion

Assistant: Daniela Castellanos @danycaste12

Grooming: Claudio Belizario at Call my Agent using Kérastase @claudiobelizario

 

 

Dimitri: First off, man—congratulations. You’ve been absolutely awesome in your latest films.

Michele Morrone: Thank you so much.

Dimitri: Seriously impressive. And I’ve gotta mention—you’re doing the Maserati film, right? I’m actually on my eleventh Maserati right now. I’m actually eyeing a 1962 3500 GT—two-door, technically a 2+2.

Michele Morrone: It’s lovely to know you like Italian cars.

Michele Morrone: I’m actually getting the MC Stradale GT2.

Dimitri: For the film?

Michele Morrone: No, I’m making one just for myself—with “MM” as the customer.

Dimitri: That’s beautiful, man. Seriously.

Michele Morrone: Yeah, brother. I appreciate it. You’re obsessed with Maserati.

Dimitri: Yeah, man. What can you do? It’s life.

Michele Morrone: Drive one together when you’re here in Milan.

Dimitri: What I find amazing is how diverse your projects are—not just in directors but genres too. That range is rare. Congrats again. So—are you based in Milan these days?

Michele Morrone: Right now I’m in Milan. Studying for a new project. We start shooting at the end of the month.

Dimitri: Awesome. I’ve got a bunch of questions lined up—especially about Maserati, so apologies for starting there! But let’s go back to your acting process. How do you usually approach new roles? You get a script—then what?

Michele Morrone: It’s all about the feeling behind the story. My beautiful and powerful manager, Chuck James, proposes scripts and projects. He’ll tell me about the film, and we go through the script. Sometimes I fall in love with the story immediately and say, “Let’s go.” Other times I’m more insecure about the project—but even then, I try to figure out how I can help. If the directors and producers want me for the script, I want to understand how I can support their vision.

Dimitri: So sometimes it’s about whether you can bring something meaningful to the role, right?

Michele Morrone: Exactly. Most of the time, I fall in love and we go for it. But sometimes, I just need to understand if I can be helpful—as an actor and maybe more.

Dimitri: So you also come on board as a producer sometimes?

Michele Morrone: Yeah, yeah—absolutely.

Dimitri: Your latest project “ Simple Favor 2”. I saw the screener and I’ve got to tell you, it’s great. Funny, dark, twisted—it’s got that suspense and dark comedy mix that I love. Like Agatha Christie meets “Knives Out”.

Michele Morrone: Yeah, the big Paul, Paul Feig called me, and was like, “I would like to have you for this film.” I was like, wow, that’s amazing. Let’s read the script. And, you know, when Paul Feig calls you, you know it’s already something big. I read the script, and I fell in love totally with the film.

And you know, I was going to play again, like, a mafia guy—a mafia boss and all that. But I didn’t want to play the usual mafia boss.

Because mafia is shit, you know? And we always live with this thing, and it’s all of that. I was trying to build up a character that could be made fun of, right?

So in a certain way, I just wanted to make fun of the mafia, right? But there was a point of this character that I really had in my heart, which was—his almost, you know, his homosexuality and stuff. And I took that as a power point and developed all of that around the character. Right?

Because it’s unacceptable, you know? In this kind of families, it’s unacceptable to have the mafia boss that likes… yeah, other men. Because usually they are, you know, half a man, and all of that blah blah blah. So I had the chance to develop something that was interesting in terms of—I want to make fun of mafia, so I’m going to play like a ridiculous character.

But this ridiculous character has this very powerful point, which is his homosexuality. So I wanted to give also strength to all those guys that still, in 2025, have no courage to tell their parents—especially in Italy—that they’re gay. Right? So that was my first point.

Plus, I was working, directed by Paul Feig—who is an amazing director.

Dimitri: Oh man, you nailed it.

Michele Morrone: My co-star is Blake Lively. And, you know, it was like a beautiful family.

Dimitri: The cast is stellar—Blake, Anna Kendrick… I just interviewed Anna recently for her Netflix film. She mentioned your project too, said she just came back from doing it.

Michele Morrone: Yeah.

Dimitri: You’ve got big names joining “The Housemaid” —Amanda Seyfried, Sydney Sweeney… it’s crazy.

Michele Morrone: Even when Paul called me again for “The Housemaid” and was like, “Mickey, I want to work with you again.” I was like, Paul, let’s do it again, of course. And there’s this wonderful cast made by crazy artists like Amanda, like Sydney, like Brandon.

And being part of this film is such an honor for me, you know? Because in a way, Hollywood is looking for me. Like, this Italian that comes from nowhere—getting into Hollywood. You know, it’s something.

Dimitri: Absolutely. But you live in Milan most of the time, right?

Michele Morrone: I actually live in Milan sometimes. But I’m—most of the time—I’m based in New York.

Dimitri: Oh, so mostly New York now. That’s cool. Milan to New York—easy trip.

Michele Morrone: Yeah, it’s just like eight hours.

Dimitri: Not too bad. Totally manageable.

Michele Morrone: Not too bad.

Dimitri: You also did another film recently—a sci-fi with Megan Fox.

Michele Morrone: It was actually for three weeks at the top place on Netflix. It’s called “Subservience”.

Dimitri: You’re also a musician. Did that come before acting or later?

Michele Morrone: No, I actually learned how to play guitar, piano, and singing by myself. You know, it was always something that I really liked to do. And, you know, I always believe that I don’t want to waste my life doing only one thing that I like.

Dimitri: Absolutely.

Michele Morrone: I want to use my life to do everything I like. So music is one of the things that I love to do.

Dimitri: Exactly. What’s the point otherwise?

Michele Morrone: There’s not a law that tells you, “Okay, you can do this, but not that.” You know? If you can, and you have the passion—why not? I mean, why not?

Dimitri: When it comes to life, you might as well do everything you can—or regret not doing it. A lot of people are just too afraid. It’s okay to take risks, even if you’re scared.

Michele Morrone: I actually do not regret anything.

Dimitri: Because you do everything you want to.

Michele Morrone: I do not regret doing anything. Because everything I want to do, I just do.

Dimitri: That’s exactly what I do as well. I regret it more if I don’t do it. If I pass on something I’m passionate about, that’s when I start thinking, “What if?”

Michele Morrone: Right.

Dimitri: So if I see a good project, I jump on it. If I love it, I do it. If there’s no passion, then what’s the point?

Michele Morrone: I believe people don’t start things they might love just because they’re scared they won’t be perfect at it. But my point is—the goal is not to be perfect. It’s to do the thing you love. Who the fuck cares if you’re perfect or not? Just do what you love.

We’re not here to prove anything to anyone. We’re here to enjoy life and do anything—anything—we love to do, you know?

Dimitri: That is so true.

Michele Morrone: That’s right.

Dimitri: That’s the message I want to share through these interviews. I do them because I love music, film, creativity. I want to understand what drives the talent—not the gossip or clickbait stuff. That’s why my interviews are Q&A—so readers can hear the real voice of the person.

Michele Morrone: Absolutely. Except for my back pain, I don’t have much to say about my private life.

Dimitri: Oh man, I feel you. I’m a snowboarder—I’ve got wrist issues. I’m wearing a brace right now just to do this interview.

Michele Morrone: You can never forget. They’re always there from time to time.

Dimitri: Exactly.

Michele Morrone: Oh yeah. The weather changes, and I feel the pain. We’re getting old, man. We’re not kids anymore.

Dimitri: No—we’re just getting young in the opposite direction.

Michele Morrone: We’re getting young in mind and old in the body.

Dimitri: I’ve got friends in Monaco who are 80, 85—still running around like madmen. Eddie Jordan just passed recently—Formula 1 guy, former team owner, started Schumacher’s career. He was still playing with his band at 79. Absolute legend.

Michele Morrone: You know…

Dimitri: Life is mindset.

Michele Morrone: Life is not in your body. Life is in your mind. Everything. There are a lot of people who suffer from the same things, but two people react differently. One suffers a lot, the other doesn’t care—because of how they see it.

Your mind is everything. It’s your pain, your joy, your happiness, your passion. It depends on how you see problems—whether you see problems, or you see opportunities.

So I always try to see opportunities, even over my problems. But it’s not always easy.

Dimitri: Exactly. You try to turn issues into opportunities—see if you can learn or grow from them.

Michele Morrone: An opportunity, yeah. That’s the main point. Absolutely.

Dimitri: You’ve been fantastic. I’ve just got one last question for you. If you could go back and give your younger self a piece of advice, what would it be?

Michele Morrone: Yeah. I would just tell him, keep going. Keep doing what you’re doing because you’re going the right way. That’s the only thing that I could have, you know, told my younger me.

Dimitri: That’s beautiful. Thank you so much, man. You’ve been fantastic. I really, truly enjoyed talking to you.

Michele Morrone: Thank you, Dimitri. I really appreciated talking to you. I wish you good luck and health.

Dimitri: Next time you come to Monaco or Cannes Film Festival or anything—give me a shout. We’re basically neighbors, you know? We’ll go have a drink.

Michele Morrone: Absolutely. Thank you so much, brother. I appreciate it.

Billy Idol – Fashion Book

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Talent: Billy Idol @billyidol
Photography, Creative Direction, and Production by: Mike Ruiz
Editor-in-Chief: Dimitri Vorontsov
Stylist: Chandra Dyani Chavez @chandradyani
Hair and Makeup:Mitzi Spallas @mitzi458
Tailor: Estevan Ramos @estysmundo
Special Thanks to: Ivan Bitton House of Style @ivanbittonstylehouse
and The Michael Vincent Academy @michaelvincentacademy
Location: Los Angeles, California

 

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Dimitri: Congratulations on your new EP. It’s fantastic. I loved it. How long did it take you to make this EP?

Billy: It was just a few days, like two weeks or less. It was just a few days, a two-week span at least. [chuckles] It wasn’t very long at all. Just over two weeks or less. It’s just a few days. We were doing a track a day.

Dimitri: Wow. You guys were just jamming in the–

Billy: We almost– we might have only had two three-day sessions. Six days somehow.

Dimitri: That’s impressive.

Billy: Then we would’ve done some additional recording, my drummer tracks– I would say over two weeks. It’s only three tracks. We already had one done.

 

Dimitri: You kept very similar sound that your fans are very accustomed to, but we’re going through so many decades, and you still manage to capture your audience. You are so consistent with the sound. It feels just as fresh if it was back in the ’80s to these days, it’s impressive. What’s your secret?

Billy: Well, we’re just not thinking too much about what’s on the radio or in the mainstream or anything like that. We’re just staying with what we think is right for us. Yes, I’m not listening to The Weeknd and going, “We need to sound like The Weeknd.” We’re not doing that. We’re saying we’re just going by our own muse, so to speak, and yes, we’re not following a trend or fashion.

I think all of that means yes, we’re making– also too, I don’t know if– there’s a lot of EDM, there’s a lot of rap music, there’s a lot of pop music. I don’t know if there’s a lot of great rock music. It’s a little bit like that’s our MO. It’s like, “Let’s make some great rock music,” because I don’t know if there is tons of it out there at the moment. Mind you, I don’t listen to everything. There may be tons of great rock and roll that I don’t know about, but that’s what I feel. We’re sticking to what we know best and not overthinking.

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Dimitri: That’s amazing. You’re right. There’s not that many great rock these days. It’s all turned into some either heavy stuff, but you’re right, it’s filled with EDM and hip hop and rap and everything in between. You’re keeping this going, that’s amazing.

Billy: I’m glad to hear that because I think there are things about rock music that are vital that you can say things with rock music that you may be, in a way, a certain way that you can’t always necessarily say that with pop music or obviously rap music. You can say a lot obviously, but a lot of pop music that I hear these days, it seems to– well, they’re talking about boyfriends that they used to have or something, which is– it’s not teeny bop music. I don’t know.

We’re just following our muse. We’re following what we like, what we’ve always done really. We’re not trying to reinvent Billy Idol or something. We’re just not following fashion. We’re just sticking to what we believe is tried and true, and what was asked really, and having fun doing it, and yes,
somehow, it seems like it’s sounding vital, really. Yes, to me, it sounds alive and doesn’t sound dated, although when people listen to it, they say it sounds like the ’80s. [chuckles]

I think it doesn’t to me sound necessarily like the ’80s, but I think people just say that because I came– a lot of my music was successful in the ’80s. I think it just sounds like great rock music. What we’re trying to do is stuff that we haven’t quite done before in a way. We’re trying to do some things we haven’t done before, exactly. At the same time, not do something that’s nothing to do with what we’ve done before. It’s a little bit like we’ve got one foot in the future, one foot in the past, and one– [chuckles] Right, three feet, one foot in today. That’s a little bit what we’re doing. We’re just keeping true to us really, and it seems to be working.

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Dimitri: My favorite track on your EP is Running From the Ghost. Is there a story behind this track?

Billy: Yes, the ghost really is– I was quite drug-addicted back in the ’80s and early ’90s. We spent the rest of the time since then, trying to put that in the rearview mirror, the drug addiction. The ghost is the drug addiction. We’re running from this because it’s always there. It’s like a devil on your shoulder, really. I know Steve Stevens feels the same way because he’s trying to do that. Steve’s been sober for a really long time, whereas I’m not sober, but I’m not going crazy. I don’t drink a lot or smoke. I vape some pot, but Steve’s completely sober.

There’s people around me who are really running from the ghosts, so to speak. So am I. There’s a little bit of that. We frightened ourselves back in the day. That’s what happened. We’re just a little bit scared of that person, we were. That’s what the song’s about. It’s really about, yes, we’re running from this ghost, this thing we did to ourselves a long time ago, which is still affecting us today, and we’re trying to keep it in the rearview mirror, but it haunts you. Yes, it haunts you. It’s scary too.

It takes a lot of willpower. You have to develop that over time. It’s a lot about that. It’s about developing the willpower to keep running from the ghost and not let it get you. Yes, it’s killed a lot of people we know one way or another. That’s what the song’s about.

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Dimitri: You decided to call your EP, The Cage. Is there a reason for this name?

Billy: It’s really just that we felt, with the coronavirus, we were in a cage of society. [chuckles] Just with the lockdowns and everything, you just felt like you were inside a cage for the last two or two and a half years. It really is a pandemic anthem. It is a coronavirus anthem. Initially, a couple of years ago, we did a EP The Roadside, and we couldn’t really write about the coronavirus then. It was also new.

Now, we’ve lived with it two and a half years or whatever it is, we’ve been through a million lockdowns, masks, and all the different feelings and all the different ideas about it and everything. It was a little bit like the whole world’s gone a little crazy. It was easy to think about a song about the coronavirus being called something like Cage because we are like– and also too, then it doesn’t have to be just about the coronavirus, it can be any time you feel like society is holding you in or holding you back and putting you in inside a box, really. We just decided that The Cage was a great title for a pandemic anthem, but it can be about any other time in your life when you feel constrained by society.

Dimitri: You’ve been working with Steve Stevens for such a long time, 41 years and you guys still manage to bring the fantastic feel in your music. There must be a story. How did you guys meet?

Billy: Well, it’s just that when I came to America in ’81, I had an American manager, Bill Aucoin. He actually already knew Steve Stevens because he was, I think– I don’t know if he was managing Steve, but he was involved with the band Steve was in, in the mid-’70s or early ’80s, or late ’70s, early ’80s. He was managing me and he knew I was coming to the States and I was going to be looking for people.

He just thought I should meet Steve, and of course, when I met Steve and when I started to realize what Steve could do with the guitar, God, and just how, wow, it can go all over the mat, it just made me go, “This is what I want to do anyway.” We grew up with a lot of artists, whether it’s The Beatles or the Velvet Underground. The Velvet Underground went all over the map.

Lou Reed did crazy songs like Sister Ray, but then he would do something like If She Ever Comes. He would do something crazy like Venus in Furs, but then he’d do I’ll Be Your Mirror. Even Iggy Pop went all over the map with his music and Bowie. It was a little bit of like, when I got to the States, I was after Generation X, so I was in Generation X, we went all over the map.

Even in my punk group, we didn’t just stay with one type of punk. We went all over the map. We did some songs that were seven minutes long. We did some songs over two minutes long. We’re already thinking that way, but my solo career, I wanted to keep hold of the punk rock attitude, but I wanted to go all over the map with my music.

With Steve Stevens, I could see right from the start once we started to play together because initially I just said to him, “I’ve got to put a band together. Why don’t we put a band together for me, and if we like, by the time we’ve done that, if we’re enjoying playing together, let’s just keep on doing it?” That’s what happened. I could just say with Steve– and it’s still the same way, Steve’s guitar breaks or what Steve can do to add to the songs we’re doing, it’s so beautiful and so accomplished that why would I need anybody else? He’s doing it. He’s touching all the buttons.

That’s what it is. It’s still really exciting. That’s the point. He still astonishes me today. I’m standing on stage sometimes going, “I don’t believe what he just played,” and he’s getting better and it’s crazy. Then it means I have to get better. It’s kind of a good thing going on between us.

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Dimitri: You came to LA in ’81. Where any special places that you played, like on the Sunset somewhere? Do you recall any special clubs or venues that you played back in the days across the US?

Billy: We actually closed Max’s Kansas City. We were the second to last band play because we had a drummer in ’81 who was in another band as well and he was playing on the last night of Max’s Kansas City, so I said, “Can we just jump up before you? We’ll use your instruments and we’ll just plug into your setup.” He said, “Yes.” We actually played the last night of Max’s Kansas City. Billy Idol helped shut– unfortunately, I didn’t want to shut Max’s, but it was closing anyway and it’s just great to get in there and play.

Also, we played places like the Peppermint Lounge and the Ritz. We did a show at the Ritz early in the evening, we did one late that same night. We did one when the album came out, I think when Rebel Yell came out or the first– whatever it was, we were putting something out. We did a double show. We did one at the Ritz and one at the Peppermint Lounge.

We played a lot of those places, a lot of the after-hours clubs that were going on AM/PM because a lot of my music was being played in these after-hours clubs. We would get up at some of these, just on a floor, not even on a stage, and just play for half an hour or something. Then coming out here, we played the Roxy and the Wilton and the Forum, and a load of places, Greek, I’ve played the Hollywood Bowl. I’ve played a lot of the venues in New York and Los Angeles now.

Dimitri: Can you imagine– now we’re talking about Rebel Yell, like 40 years later, your track is still one– it doesn’t matter where you go on the planet, you go to any club from Australia to Monaco, it doesn’t matter where you are, you’ll hear your track, especially in the last hour of the night. It’s always going to be Billy Idol, Rebel Yell. How does it make you feel, creating this track? Do you think 40-plus years later people will be still screaming and rocking to your track, especially in the last hours like 3:00 AM,4:00 AM, 5:00 AM, people will be going absolutely fucking bonkers to your music?

Billy: It’s incredible to think that. One thing we were doing was my producer at the time, Keith Forsey was really good, I think he made sure that the songs weren’t just ’80s sounding. Even though we were making them for that moment, for the contemporary time we were playing them, we were thinking a little beyond the ’80s. As I say, we’d grown up with music from the ’50s, ’60s, ’70s. When we were making music in the ’80s, we weren’t just making it with the sounds of the ’80s. We were very sort of influenced by what had come before and where music was going as well.

We were not only using technology that was forward-looking because we were using a lot of stuff that was even difficult to work with because it was so new, the technology, but we were also looking backwards and using some of the older technologies that had happened in the ’60s and ’70s. I think we got this sound that could transcend the time we were making a lot of the music.

Just the fact you’re saying what you’re saying proves what we did was right, that it worked because there’s a lot of bands from the ’80s, you listen to their music and it sounds like it’s only of that era which I don’t think you get that feeling with Rebel Yell. You don’t get that feeling. I don’t get that feeling, it’s just an ’80s track. It sounds beyond that. I think that’s a lot to do with Keith Forsey, in particular, who was very aware of– “Let’s make sure this music can go beyond the time we’re making it.”

Dimitri: How does it feel to get back and perform to the live audience after pandemic?

Billy: Oh, we’ve been playing. We played in ’21. We played September, October, November, December in ’21 and we just played June, July in the States, and we played September in South America, October in Europe, and we played in November in the UK. We’ve been playing back since September ’21.

Dimitri: Oh, that’s amazing.

Billy: We managed to get back rocking.

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Dimitri: I have a story from Mike Ruiz, from our creative director / and your photographer. He told me a little story. Back in ’82, it was back in Montreal, he was a young guy and he spent a whole night waiting to get tickets to your concert. He managed to get the front stage, in front of you. It was one of the most memorable experiences for Mike. What can you say to one of your biggest fans, and now he’s photographing his idol, 40 years later, so what can you tell about the experience working with Mike Ruiz, what sort of message can you give him?

Billy: It’s just fantastic that we’ve both done the thing we love. I think that’s what it looks like, that there I was doing what I loved, and then he was going to do photography or be involved in the arts in whatever way he is and become someone who’s so good at shooting. He takes a very short amount– I think he spends time setting up the shot, but once he’s got what he’s looking for, he’s very quick and he just seems really fantastic.

I think it’s just great that his artistry is such that we’re both enjoying something 40 years later, it’s pretty wild that we’re now, I expect, he is in his 50s and I’m pretty late 60s. [chuckles] It’s great that we’re still grooving on– we’re still both around and we’re still grooving on what we love. I think that’s probably why we are still here because we really enjoyed what we’re doing. That’s why we did it in the first place. It was really because it was something we love. [chuckles]

Dimitri: What do you do these days to unwind and just relax? What makes you Zen?

Billy: I like watching movies and stuff, old movies, and sometimes I read about directors and stuff. I watch– at the moment, I’m reading Quentin Tarantino’s Cinema Speculation book and then watching– reading what he’ll say about a certain movie because a few of them I haven’t seen, or if I saw them, it was a long time ago, and then I’ll check out what he is talking about. I do things like that.

I do the same thing with music, I’ll read about certain artists and I’ll listen to– I do that as a– check out what other people are– I’m really enjoying Quentin Tarantino’s book and enjoying kind of watching some of the movies. I hadn’t seen The Outfit or Rolling Thunder. It’s kind of fun seeing what he sees in something and then how I see that he sees in something a lot more than what’s necessary– not what on the surface is necessarily there, but then later on you realize, “Oh, these funny B movies, those stick with you.”

There’s something about– and I see he likes some of the second– somebody who’s always a supporting role in the movie become the main guy. [chuckles] He loves that. I think he does that in his films. Jackie Brown, he put in Robert Forster, and they’re all really good actors, but they just don’t get that– they don’t get a chance to play a major role. They’re always usually a second-stringer or something. I think he likes doing that.

It’s been interesting. I do that with people like Orson Welles or whoever. I went through a period of reading about John Ford and Howard Hawks, and now I’m doing Quentin Tarantino in a way. Maybe that’s what I do. I investigate things, but I enjoy things like that, and I think it all backs up my music because somehow I’m reading about other people doing something artistic, and then that all helps to keep your mind going in terms of your own artistry.

I can see they’re following their muse, and that’s what’s exciting to me. Yes, in a weird way, doing something like that helps me to relax, but at the same time, I’m feeding what I do somewhere.

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Dimitri: Quentin is my favorite. I had the pleasure to meet him after he received an Award for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Actually, still feel what he did in Once Upon a Time, he corrected the past events. Some people refuse to believe or understand but he put the history in the right way. You lived through that time…

Billy: Yes, I enjoyed that movie a lot. He’s great. It’s fun reading his book partly to understand how he came to do what he did. It’s a little bit like that in his book Cinema Speculation.

Dimitri: If you could give your younger self an advice, what advice would you give?

Billy: Well, thank God, I feel in lots of ways I’ve done a lot of things correctly. Obviously, there are some things that you go, “Oops, I wish I hadn’t done that,” sort of thing. In general, I’ve done a lot of the right things because life and your artistry, it doesn’t go in a straight line. There’s nothing linear about it. I think all people have in their lives have ups and downs, and it’s just a natural thing.

I probably would tell myself not to worry so much about things, but you can’t tell yourself that when you’re younger and that you don’t know if what you’re doing is going to last or anything. Of course, you’re a little bit– but there again, I believed in myself somewhere. You just go back to that all the time. I would tell the younger me, yes, keep believing in yourself because there’s times when you do lose your belief in yourself and I think that’s something you have to keep on believing because look what’s going on. We’re still enjoying what we do. We’re still making the music you’re digging.

Dimitri: Absolutely.

Billy: That’s fantastic for us. Just even feeling that we are vital at this age is pretty exciting. I would tell myself just believe because look, it’s all going to work. It’s going to work in the end one way or another.